Can I fix this? (Broken Spleene Session)

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Can I fix this? (Broken Spleene Session)

Postby jakemoore » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:08 am

I broke my spleen session. I lost it in the outside break in a crash and it washed into the jetties before I could find it. It lodged between the rocks and was hammered by 5-6' surf for about an hour. (I'm glad I didn't wash up on the jetties)

It seems like the main crack is only the first two layers and not in the core but I haven't peeled them back to see the core. There is still some strength there, about 50%, and if I don't put pressure on the crack the board maintains its orginal rocker line.

So the question is can this be fixed and would it be worth my while? Any tips from the boardbuilding guru's? Is there somewhere to send it?

Thanks,
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Postby jakemoore » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:12 am

P.S.

In case there is any question I did not want this to turn into some kind of anti-spleene thread or warranty issue plea. Any board would have broke under these conditions.

I can email Hi-Res photos if they would help any board building gurus. I've also thought about dissecting the board to see how such a nice board is put together.

Jake
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Postby mv » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:58 am

Ouch! Sorry to hear about your Session. I would hate to lost mine as it my main board now.
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Postby jt van dorp » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:43 pm

There is no way you can fix this I'm afraid. the topsheet doesn't allow a good bond with epoxy, and your core is probably chrushed. Could try but my guess is that the first landing will snap it in half......
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Postby chemosavi » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:57 pm

You're all set to make a traveling board out of it, just like the ones they sell that fold in half with a top plate that has the bindings on it. Couple of screws, some sanding and it's ebayable!
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Postby Skye » Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:35 pm

Insurance and get a new one?
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Postby jakemoore » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:53 am

Thanks guys. Yes this board is right in so many ways, it is a shame to break it. Maybe plywood is my destiny. JT - do you know what adhesive Spleene uses? Something must bond the topsheet. After reading shmick's link I'm thinking the core and topsheed are good and only the bottom is screwed. Maybe I'll cut off the bottom sheet where the break is this weekend and check the core.

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Postby jt van dorp » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:13 am

I quess its some kind of snowboard topsheet, probably UHMWPE. This will bond only once flame treated. It opens up the material and the epoxy just sucks into the material.
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Postby jakemoore » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:26 am

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24104

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GREAT ADVICE SHMICK
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Postby jakemoore » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:29 am

:)
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Postby jakemoore » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:49 am

We had nothing but rain this long weekend so project time. I did things a little different than Marty. I used a handheld planer from Lowes to bring it down to the foam. Sweet little gadget and apartment compatable too. The stringers were cracked to I routed out the foam to the topsheet with my mototool and epoxied some 1/4" poplar hardwood blocks in to reinforce. For the glassing I used some epoxy I got at Lowes that was available in a large size. It took about 16 ounces. I just sanded the bottom with 80 grit and at appears to adhere well. (It appears to adhere well even in places I did not sand.) The only problem was the epoxy set in 5 min so had to work fast. 2 sheets of glass 6" wide, 2 sheets 12" wide and 2 sheets 18" wide. I put the board between a few pieces of particle board and drove my car up onto the sandwich to press while curing. I'm quite pleased with the appearant strength. I'm deciding whether to fill in the little bit of camber I have in the bottom or just leave as is. Also, I need to decide what to do with the board since I have bought a newer used session. I'm contmplating doing the Gridlok fin placement for light-wind or possibly cutting out the toeside like a race board. Thanks again for everybodys advise.

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Postby zfennell » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:19 am

sorry to here.... and see.

if i'm not too late, this may give you some ideas

www.boardlady.com

also,
http://www.swaylocks.com/forum/

the best overall


good luck.
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Postby dr.lojz » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:16 am

Well done @jakemoore,
sorry I am late with suggestion, but the work was done perfect!
Coming from aircraft industry with the background of model making
/repairing also ;-) / This is only way to repair such a damage.
One point must to be respected! The angled cut of glasssfibre must to be at least
10times longer then thickness of the glasssfibre ! Laminate the same thickness
of glasssfibre into it, that is! With such a repair on the sail plane wing and the check
of controller the plane get the permission to be air born again!

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